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 Longtimecoming (original poster new member #82808) posted at 3:02 PM on Friday, January 31st, 2025

I first signed up for this group 9 years ago. Here I am again and I’ve been in and out.

I’m ready to divorce. Went to lawyer, have papers. Hesitating to serve him.

There has been drug use, lots of porn and online infidelity he still denies "physical cheating".

Talk to me about positive outcomes of divorce. I hope I’m not making a terrible mistake.

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somanyyears ( member #26970) posted at 5:13 PM on Friday, January 31st, 2025

..?? ..how many years do you have invested in this person??

trust no other human- love only your pets. Reconciled I think!Me 77 Her 73 Married 52 yrs. 18 yr LTA with bff/lawyer. Little fucker died at 57.Brain tumour!

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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 6:53 PM on Friday, January 31st, 2025

Have you absorbed the info in the Fear vs. Reality thread? (https://survivinginfidelity.com/topics/497843/fear-vs-reality/)

What is keeping you in your M? Do you expect he will change?

fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex ap
DDay - 12/22/2010
Recover'd and R'ed
You don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.

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leafields ( Guide #63517) posted at 8:36 PM on Friday, January 31st, 2025

There are some threads in New Beginnings that may help you out. After the D, it took me about a year to get my feet under me, and now I'm really loving being on my own. (Well, I do have one DS with me.)

I don't have to put up with XWH's crap. I can have what I want for dinner, I can watch what I want to on TV. When I want to go somewhere, I don't have to deal with the fallout if XWH couldn't go or didn't want to go.

XWH has remarried to a lady that none of the family likes. He's also thought to have another GF in the wings. I don't have to deal with any of that, except to listen when the family needs to vent.

BW M 34years, Dday 1: March 2018, Dday 2: August 2019, D final 2/25/21

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 Longtimecoming (original poster new member #82808) posted at 9:08 AM on Saturday, February 1st, 2025

I have been married 17 years, together almost 20.

I think at this point fear is keeping me M. I’m afraid of the fallout if I serve him.

I’m afraid my kids will loose stability in their hometown.

I’m afraid I won’t be able to afford anything suitable for a home business I run.

I’m afraid I made more than him this year so I’ll owe alimony making it even more difficult for me to start over. He was the breadwinner for most of our marriage but I started making more when he began his own business. He manages all the finances since we started together.

I’m afraid I’ll miss him. I already do we’re separated. He’s not a bad person just made some bad choices.

I’m afraid this is all really my fault. He says I control, belittle and don’t respect him, which I know is partially true because I have lost respect for him with all this. I have a hard time trusting him so I don’t take anything he says seriously.

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Justsomeguy ( member #65583) posted at 5:26 PM on Saturday, February 1st, 2025

Well, I won't give you advice on what you should do in terms of D, but I will say that you should be up to speed on all financial matters. This is just sound advice for any couple at any stage.

I'll tell you my experience if it helps. I tried to R with my now EXWW, but she was and is a person who just does not do things, so she was ill equipped to do the heavy lifting in R. Add to that the fact that I'm not a forgiving person when it comes to betrayal and I recognized that I would never love her in the way a wife ought to be loved by her husband, if at all.

I felt at peace when I filed, but I also grieved. I think it is natural when something ends. I didn't miss her, but rather,the idea of marriage and family.

I had huge anxiety about what my life would look like moving forward. Mind you, I'm a man who lives in my head, so I had to have a plan A, B, C, D, etc. I looked at all possible scenarios in terms of living arrangements, child custody, etc. Once I was assured that I wouldn't be eating cat food for the rest of my life, I felt better.

My best friend went through a nasty D years back, and he really struggled financially, but he made it work. He got very creative in finding ways to make ends meet. I asked him for advice, and he told me that he wished he wouldn't have been so concerned about finances. It always seemed to work out.

I was forced to make some sacrifices when I first moved out on my own. I could only afford a two bedroom apartment, so I looked at creative ways to have a bed in the living room. In the end, I lucked out and found an apartment that had a small cutout for a dining table and I was just big enough for a double bed and an end table on each side. I huge a curtain on the end and I had a place to sleep.we called it "the nook" and it was home for almost 4 years.

I was worried about life being hard on the kids, but they adapted. We made some good memories there, had some battles and even a few victories. Since my place was about 800 Sq feet, it was cramped, but we managed to get a desktop tree and celebrated Christmas every year, even inviting friends to stay with us.

Despite me being a mess for a long time, my kids look back and have mostly good memories. They've grown up normally. Sure, they have their own struggles, but I don't think these are any worse that those they'd experience had I stayed with their mother.

The real healing started when I bought my townhouse. You can read about my journey in New Beginnings if your interested. I now have my own room with a door! The place is really old, but I'm slowly fixing it up by keeping an eye out for used materials. It's amazing how much you can save if one is handy and patient.

I grew up poor, born into a family of four in a one bedroom house. My family was frugal and extremely self-sufficient,so I do poor pretty good. As a result, we've been able to live pretty comfortably. There's food in the pantry, I scratch cook and shop sales. My kids are not fussy and shop thrft stores. My buddy drops off free wood for my fireplace which takes the edge off in the winter. All in all, looking at us, you wouldn't guess that I spend hours each month balancing our budget. I have zero debt now, save the mortgage, and work side gigs whenever I can. Hell, I'm even able to put a few bucks away each month.

I'm writing this sitting in bed with my coffee ☕️ and electric blanket (saves money), and looking at the totality of my life since S and D, I can honestly say I am content, not happy, but content and most certainly at peace. My girls are both grown, but they choose to live with me, which is a good thing (mostly).

I look back on my buddies advice about not sweating the financial stuff, and I can honestly say he was right. Things always seemed to work out,maybe not perfectly but well enough. Human beings are amazingly adaptable and the new normal quickly becomes just normal. I don't know I any of what I've written helps, but I hope for good things in you future, whatever path you choose.

I'm an oulier in my positions.

Me:57 STBXWW:55 DD#1: false confession of EA Dec. 2016. False R for a year.DD#2: confessed to year long PA Dec. 2 2017 (was about to be outed)Called it off and filed. Denied having an affair in court papers.

Divorced

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BearlyBreathing ( member #55075) posted at 6:08 PM on Saturday, February 1st, 2025

You have a long list of things that you can actually put to rest by educating yourself with a few visits to a lawyer. So do that. You don’t have to file. You are just going to understand the legal and financial position D would put you in. You can also sit down with a banker after that and look at your position and credit and understand what that will look like. You might have to pay alimony. You might also be able to negotiate something else (he can have the truck or whatever) and not pay alimony. This is all very clear in the legal code for your area, so you will be able to get a good picture of what the reality (not your fears) will be. It’s hard - I cried the first time I went to the lawyer - but they are used to it and will be very helpful. Some even do a first meeting for free. So start getting your ducks lined up. Knowledge is POWER and is great at reducing those fears.

As for the kids. You must know many divorced people. Was it so bad for them? Did the kids turn out okay or were they ostracized? So many posters here have said they WISH their parents had divorced or how much better it was once they did divorce. Kids KNOW something is up. They can feel the tension in the air. And little ones think it is their fault. Having happy, emotionally healthy parents is more important than married parents. Especially with drugs and porn use in the house.

And look, maybe you weren’t a perfect partner. None of us is. He wasn’t. But he didn’t make a few bad choices. He made thousands and thousands of deliberate choices to lie, disrespect, endanger and betray you and your kids. That’s not a good guy. So you are not to blame. He could have asked for counseling, asked you to change, asked for separation or divorce. But instead he repeatedly did horrible things to you and your family. IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. He had options. He CHOSE the ones he did and did so repeatedly. For years.
Please get into IC to help you internalize this.

And yes, for a while you will miss him. But that will fade over time. Part of that is really just the habit of him. you are used to him. You have built so many things around him and it will take time to rewire your brain. (I remember crying in the grocery because I didn’t need to buy bananas for my XWS and I don’t even like bananas. But he "needed" them every single day.) But with time and distance you will more clearly see the parts of your M that were unbalanced and not healthy. And you will wonder why you thought he hung the moon.

I don’t think you are making a mistake. He isn’t changing, doesn’t want to change. And you can’t raise your kids in that environment.

Me: BS 57 (49 on d-day)Him: *who cares ;-) *. D-Day 8/15/2016 LTA. Kinda liking my new life :-)

**horrible typist, lots of edits to correct. :-/ **

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 Longtimecoming (original poster new member #82808) posted at 1:29 PM on Sunday, February 2nd, 2025

Barelybreathing and others thank you so much. I did meet with a lawyer and my bestie thank God! Is in finance and is helping me tremendously.

I have an ok handle on how things will look after D and a rough estimate on how much I could walk away with which I could start a new life I would just need to move maybe 30-40 minutes outside the "hub" city. I would be ok with that. I worry about my kids.

I spent a lot of time ruminating last night with a couple close friends on all the good stuff he’s done for me. Taken care of me after a surgery, hands on dad even with infants. I could sense he was "trying" with the physical affection piece that was so important to me.

I wish I could have all those things without the lying and deceit.

I know I can’t. This isn’t the first time I’ve been here & even if I’m not here in the thick of it I’m always wondering. It would be most healthy for me to be no contact (except for kid related) and get up the guts to serve him.

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