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Perspective after 9 years

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 Seneca (original poster member #72594) posted at 5:18 PM on Saturday, April 25th, 2026

Checking in after 9 years...How can it possibly be 9 years? Indeed, life goes on.

Here are a few lessons learned; some took years to emerge.

1. As so many said back at the time, I finally realized it mostly wasn't about me. But to say entirely not about me, well, is that possible? I don't think so.

2. Staying together, which we did, was very difficult. In some ways, it still is difficult at times.

3. If I had it to do over, I'd still decide to stay together. Finances and many other reasons to stay together matter once you're past the emotional craziness that comes in the early stages--a good friend ended his marriage and endured FINANCIAL WRECKAGE, to say the least; resentment by his children and other family members has not dissipated for him even though years have passed. My decision to stay together (I did see an attorney about divorce) may have been different if I'd been many years younger but I was not. She was not.

4. A satisfying sex life between us, except for rare periods, never came back. Once I was past the rage stage after DD 1&2, and after endless fighting and multiple counselors, I simply made myself move beyond and STOPPED BRINGING UP ANYTHING ABOUT IT, following the lead of Gottman and other noteworthy counselors. I went into do-the-best-you-can-to-be-a-good-partner mode. I'm a good partner--and actually, never was a bad partner before. This hasn't increased our shattered intimacy or improved our sex life. It is what it is. Now, I'm 73, healthy and fit, and have a healthy libido. Frustration is a fact of life. See # 6!

5. I don't think about it several times a day anymore--it's been 9 years after all. But I do still think about it several times a week. When I do, what I feel about now it is mostly sadness for both of us. In the first year (at least) what I felt was mostly anger and, truth be told, sorry for myself. In the early days after discovery, I oscillated between rage and daily pity parties. That passed.

6. The MOST important thing I did for my own well-being was choose to NOT BE A VICTIM. My understanding about human nature has grown enormously as a result of all this and that has been a very good thing. Letting go of fairy-tale notions and erroneous moral teaching was one result of this.

7. The emotional pain I felt was the worst thing of my life and IT DOES DIMINISH. If you're still in the crazy-intense stages of betrayal, my heart goes out to you. BUT...don't be a victim. Repeat: DON'T BE A VICTIM. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and say as many times as you must I WON'T BE A VICTIM.

8. It will take time but you'll come through. Unless you see yourself as a victim. If that's the case for you, recovery will probably never happen.

[This message edited by Seneca at 4:59 PM, Sunday, April 26th]

Lessons learned

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IsThisTheRealLife ( new member #86023) posted at 11:58 PM on Saturday, April 25th, 2026

Thank you. That was a really helpful thing for me to read today. I feel frozen, too scared to make a commitment one way or the other. So many valid reasons to choose either direction. It’s good to hear these points made from someone more far removed from discovery than myself.

I’m curious, did you feel like your wife "did reconciliation right"?

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Hippo16 ( member #52440) posted at 4:25 AM on Sunday, April 26th, 2026

This just IRKS me!


4. A satisfying sex life between us, except for rare periods, never came back. Once I was past the rage stage after DD 1&2, and after endless fighting and multiple counselors, I simply made myself move beyond and STOPPED BRINGING UP ANYTHING ABOUT IT, following the lead of Gottman and other noteworthy counselors. I went into do-the-best-you-can-to-be-a-good-partner mode. I'm a good partner--and actually, never was a bad partner before. This hasn't increased our shattered intimacy or improved our sex life. It is what it is. Now, I'm 73, healthy and fit, and have a healthy libido. Frustration is a fact of life. See # 6!


My wife cheated - but (I was a LOT younger) didn't bail.

Well, we figured out how NOT to kill each other and stayed together.

I will be 80 soon and I "get my cookies off" regularly and so DOES SHE. We both work at making sure as such.

You still have work to do -


I worked as an engineer for decades - and THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE outcome for any "work" was perfection. Whatever it was, it had to WORK perfectly or it was not viable.

Same goes for human relations (in my book)

There's no troubled marriage that can't be made worse with adultery."For a person with integrity, there is no possibility of being unhappy enough in your marriage to have an affair, but not unhappy enough to ask for divorce."

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NoThanksForTheMemories ( member #83278) posted at 5:08 AM on Sunday, April 26th, 2026

Seneca, I've been here for a little over 3 years, and it's good to see your long-term update. Life does go on. Thanks for checking back in with us! It sounds like you have made peace with your circumstances.

I wonder if, when you say "don't be a victim," you mean "don't get stuck in victimhood"? My take is that all BSes are victims of their WS's infidelity, but we don't have to let that define the rest of our lives. Getting stuck in a victimhood mentality stops a BS from reclaiming agency and working toward a satisfying future (whether via reconciliation, separation, or divorce).

Letting go of fairy-tale notions is a hard won lesson from all this, and one that I've also learned. Thanks for sharing your wisdom. I hope you continue to find peace and satisfaction over the next 9 years!

WS had a 3 yr EA+PA from 2020-2022, and an EA 10 years ago (different AP). Dday1 Nov 2022. Dday4 Sep 2023. False R for 2.5 months. 30 years together. Divorcing.

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Tanner ( Guide #72235) posted at 6:46 AM on Sunday, April 26th, 2026

Thanks for the update. Infidelity changes us forever. You can choose to stay in misery or rise above it. No we never get completely over it, but we can heal and grow from it. I chose healing.

Dday Sept 7 2019 doing well in R BH M 33 years

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RealityBlows ( member #41108) posted at 9:03 AM on Sunday, April 26th, 2026

Seneca,

I was about to do a hard disagree on several of your concessions, especially the intimacy stuff, but…

I put myself squarely in your shoes, considering age, entanglements, available options, stakeholders, circumstances, and…

I’m not going to judge you. As long as you are genuinely happy, have found peace, are not being harmed or hurting anyone, and…have at least fallen back into love with yourself, good for you.

This goes a bit against my personal "Avoid Limbo" philosophy, but you probably aren’t "stuck in limbo", if you are content and at peace.

[This message edited by RealityBlows at 9:30 AM, Sunday, April 26th]

"If nothing in life matters, then all that matters is what we do."

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 Seneca (original poster member #72594) posted at 3:11 PM on Sunday, April 26th, 2026

Thanks for the many replies. I won't try to answer each point made in the several responses but I will add some important clarification.

I experienced a near fatal airplane crash (on Valentine's Day, 2022, how symbolic of my romantic life this was!!!)and was bedridden for quite a while; I experienced multiple fractures, including a skull fracture; all this resulted in several surgeries and a long, difficult recovery.

If you are interested in more details about the crash, caused by an engine failure over a forest, Google "N7337D NTSB report". I have no need to talk about it any more like I once did. There's a parallel here with processing betrayal/infidelity, no? I think that one sign of healing is when we don't need to keep mulling it over and talking about it, whether it's infidelity or airplane crashes!

ANYWAY, during all that time being bedridden or in a wheelchair, I had lots of time to ponder what truly matters in life and a way to think about the difficult things. I had LOTS of time.

During this time, I began reading the meditations written by Marcus Aurelius and found these to be a source of strength and clarity unlike anything I'd ever found before. Even though a little over 4 years had passed between D-day and the crash, I found myself applying what I'd read (and re-read, over and over) backward to the upheaval and tumult of the affair AND to the mechanic's error which caused the engine-out. These writings, over time, brought me new understanding and, eventually, a type of peace.

If you're curious about this, Google "Marcus Aurelius quotes". Note that these originally were written in Greek, about 1800 years ago, and were private thoughts; Aurelius wasn't writing to an audience but was writing things he wanted to remember himself.

The reading I did was life changing. Since it was all in Greek, anything you read will be a translation and that means that the wording varies from one time to the next as literally hundreds of translations exist; all of this is free, BTW, no copyrights!

Here are a few quotes from Aurelius that are so very applicable to recovery from traumatic circumstances (remember, he was not pontificating to others but writing TO HIMSELF things he wanted to remember). These few were especially meaningful to me:

"You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength".

"When you are distressed by something external, the pain is not primarily due to the thing itself, but to your feelings about it. Realizing this is the path to revoking the distress and this can happen in a moment if you choose".

"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love".

"Accept the things to which fate binds you, love the people with whom fate brings you together, and do both of these with all your heart".

"Very little is needed to make a happy life; it is all within yourself in your way of thinking".

"The best revenge is to be unlike he who performed the injury".

I'll add that when our minds are hijacked by the tidal waves of emotion that come with discovery of infidelity and our trust has been obliterated, the first one above ("You have power over your mind - not outside events...") isn't something we can grasp because the prefrontal cortex in the brain where our rational self exists is largely off-line. BTW, I'm a former college professor, among other things, who taught graduate level courses about brain function and behavior when trauma is present. Instead, your amygdala is in control and this part of the brain is incredibly reactive but NOT RATIONAL. So, if you're reading this and still in the emotionally hijacked state, I'd say to you that returning to calmness and rationality is the absolute most important thing you must do before making decisions. Otherwise, REALLY bad decisions may result.

One way to return to rational and calmer thinking is to ask yourself: what is in my long-term best interest? Keep asking that...because this question tends to bring your prefrontal cortex back on-line and this is where good decisions come from, not from amygdala activation.

During the confrontation on D-day, my wife delivered a threat to me from her lover to ruin me if I told his wife (!!!). I went completely crazy, contacted his wife immediately and went to his workplace (he wasn't there). There were some construction workers there; I told one I'd give him $50 if he'd call me and tell me when Corey arrived. I had some very, very violent intentions...and the worker could tell that so he told his boss who tipped Corey off. Now consider this: would what I would have done to him had I found him* been in my long-term best interest? Obviously not...but this could not see at the time because my PFC was hijacked by my amygdala. Enough of this except to say, if you're still in the stage where YOUR PFC is hijacked, there is nothing more important than returning to a calmer, rational state.

See the final quote above by Marcus Aurelius.


*-Several months later, I ran across him in a store (my wife was along and told me "OMG, that's Corey", otherwise I would not have even known. I walked up to him with my prefrontal cortex in control, unlike right after D-day, stepped a little bit in to his personal space, and told him who I was in a low voice. THE COLOR DRAINED OUT OF HIS FACE, HE STUMBLED BACKWARDS, TURNED AND SPRINTED AWAY. My wife saw this and later said "what a coward!". But, given the duplicitous nature of people in the heat/fog of an affair, later contacted him again anyway. So things go!

Lessons learned

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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 3:45 PM on Sunday, April 26th, 2026

8. It will take time but you'll come through. Unless you see yourself as victim. If that's the case for you, recovery will probably never happen.

Amen.

Thanks for sharing. I'm glad you're well.

fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex ap
d-day - 12/22/2010 Recover'd and R'ed
You don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.

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